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Theology is the study of theism; Atheology is the study of atheism. I am The Atheologist. Why don’t Atheists embrace religion when the vast majority of humans do? Why are Atheists regarded by most of society as thugs, rabble, vermin and generally naughty people. The Atheologist will attempt to seek out the true answers to these and many more questions by using logical assumptions, interviews with people of all faiths and really, really good research. The Atheologist wants to know.

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  • Friday, May 12, 2006

    Don’t Judge A Blog By Its Cover


    The Atheologist has come across a blogger who may not be what he professes to be. This particular blogger, who shall not be identified by the Atheologist, leads his readers to believe that he is an Atheist.
    Now the Atheologist, whose job it is to find the truth in all things relating to Atheism and religion, believes that he sees this blogger for what he really is. This particular blogger is no Atheist, but actually a Fundamentalist Christian!

    The Atheologist has witnessed thousands of online debates between Fundamentalist Christians vs. Atheists and Fundamentalist Christians vs. people of other faiths and has become an authority on the way Fundamentalist Christians operate. Here is the evidence gathered from his blog and online forums, that have led the Atheologist to his logical assumption, see if you don’t agree:

    (1) Anyone who disagrees with him is wrong – A typical Fundamentalist trait.
    (2) Resorts to name calling and belittling instead of discussion when he is frustrated – A Fundamentalist technique, (uses retarded, retarded moron, gullible, stupid, ignorant, jerk, French whore, Moonbat and Dhimmiwit often).
    (3) Posts his and his dog’s picture on his blog – A real Atheist knows, that for an Atheist, this is a very dangerous thing to do. (But then again maybe it’s not really his picture or his dog’s picture and he’s not really a Canadian, he’s probably from Alabama).
    (4) Strongly defends and supports Israel’s right to exist – Fundamentalist Christians need Israel to exist so that the Biblical End Times scenario can play out.
    (5) Brags a lot – about his dog, his sense of humor, his intelligence, the number of hits his blog gets…this is a typical Fundamentalist Christian superiority complex trait.
    (6) Has a great singing voice from all those years he spent in his church choir - as witnessed from audio clips on a recent blog post of his.
    (7) Doesn’t have a job – He doesn’t need a job because he probably gets money from the Bush Administration’s Faith Based Initiative program funneled through his church. (Remember he’s from Alabama).
    (8) Pretends to be a racist and bigot – True Christians are not. (A cunning use of deception here) .
    (9) Does not like conspiracy theories - (except for those against Israel see # (4) above) – This is an offshoot of the hatred that Fundamentalist Christians have towards any theory, examples; Evolutionary theory, big bang theory, gravitational theory, alien clone theory…etc.
    (10) Recently started screening the comments to his blog – Maybe others besides the Atheologist were getting wise to his ways.

    There was one thing that at first bothered the Atheologist in the early stages of his investigation into this blogger. His spelling and grammar are impeccable. (It is a well known fact that Fundamentalist Christians have terrible grammar and spelling because they have a hard time concentrating in English class what with their minds constantly on Jesus.) The Atheologist looked into this anomaly and found out that some Fundamentalist Christians actually know how to use Spell Checker, (what a relief that was).

    There is still one question that the Atheologist cannot answer at this time about this blogger:
    Does he or does he not actually eat bacon?

    As a side note:
    The Atheologist has found several other bloggers who also do not actually appear to be what they profess to be. There is one in particular one that caught the Atheologist’s attention. She is a blogger who gives the impression of being a devout Catholic, but the Atheologist is working on the theory that she may actually be a Black, Lesbian, Atheist, Migrant Mud Wrestler. Stay tuned.

    Update 2/01/2007: It seems that the blogger who is the subject of this post, is still practicing his deception. In the interest of public safety and truthfulness the Atheologist feels obligated to identify the architect of this little charade. This individual’s blog can be found here.

    The Atheologist

    33 Comments:

    Blogger Bacon Eating Atheist Jew said...

    LOL. I have a job, and I stopped screening the comments has Bernanda has at least temporarily stopped spamming me with her Jew hating posts.

    10:04:00 AM  
    Blogger Lya Kahlo said...

    Damn. I was hoping I'd get to be lied about too!

    10:23:00 AM  
    Blogger The Atheologist said...

    '7) Doesn’t have a job'
    Where did I get that from?
    I thought I saw something on your blog or profile that made me think that. Ok then you're an atheist again.

    10:50:00 AM  
    Blogger The Comment Pimpette said...

    LMFAO!!! I love it!!

    We love Bacon no matter what he is.

    12:46:00 PM  
    Blogger Amishav said...

    I just KNEW that he couldn't be trusted. That part about the spelling a grammar- that was the big one for me.

    12:47:00 PM  
    Blogger Steve said...

    lol. well, he may not be a theist, but he is certainly dogmatic about things, and isn't open to dialogue about things which challenge his point of view.

    In that sense, they have some commonalities.

    4:42:00 PM  
    Blogger Vile Blasphemer said...

    Now this is some interesting schtick.

    5:53:00 PM  
    Blogger Julie D. said...

    a blogger who gives the impression of being a devout Catholic

    You've got to admit I picked a good "cover" eh? :-D

    7:01:00 PM  
    Blogger bigdumbchimp said...

    this is actually pretty funny

    10:37:00 PM  
    Blogger bigdumbchimp said...

    as a matter of fact after reading through some previous posts, you are on the blogroll.

    11:01:00 PM  
    Anonymous bernarda said...

    I am the happy recipient of baconeatingzionist censorship. To support what the atheologist said about bacon's language, following is an exchange I had with him on his blog.

    " Your position on the prohibition of so-called "hard" drugs like cocaine and heroin is illogical and irrational.

    These, along with other drugs, should be legal. The reason people may hold up 7/11's is because the drugs are expensive--in more ways than one--because they are illegal. If they were legal--maybe even with controlled prices--people could get them at reasonable prices and they wouldn't have to frequent dangerous criminals to get them. People can and do lead normal lives even with addictions, including heroin or cocaine addictions.

    Did you know that all these anti-drug laws only came into being after WWI? Was there an enormous drug problem before that? Alcohol was seen as the biggest public health problem. Yet by the time of prohibition, the consumption of alcohol per person was in steady decline. This decline is continuing up to today.

    See the book "Alcohol" by Griffith Edwards.

    Conceptually, there is no difference between use of these different substances. It is an illusion to think that legalization would lead to a boom in drug use. There is a limit to the amount that people could consume and to the number of people who would be interested in one substance or another. Mostly what would happen is that drug users--including alcohol users--would change from one to substance to another or alternately use different ones.

    Of course there should the same restrictions as for alcohol in driving or forbidding sales to minors.

    Finally, who are you to tell people how to live their lives and what they can and cannot do in their private lives?
    # posted by bernarda : 09 April, 2006 08:37


    Bernarda, you live in the past. It is evident in all your posts.

    I am not telling people what to do in private. But some things like shooting guns, practising pedophelia in your own house and doing illegal hard drugs can be justifiably dealt with in my eyes by prohibiting it.
    And also levying very harsh sentences.

    # posted by Bacon Eating Atheist Jew : 10 April, 2006 15:37

    As usual Bacon, you don't respond to any specific point. You make gross generalizations.

    Even you should be able to see the difference between taking drugs and praticing pedophilia.

    You have to be the most intellectually dishonest atheist I have ever encountered. I am at the point of questioning your ability to understand basic logical concepts. You give atheism a bad name.
    # posted by bernarda : 10 April, 2006 16:23

    Look idiot, quit cherry picking, in fact GFY and get lost. You are nothing but a vile puke.
    You made many generalizations and you are upset because I gave you a general answer.

    What specific point am I supposed to address, you retarded assmonkey?
    # posted by Bacon Eating Atheist Jew : 10 April, 2006 16:59

    I gave you very specific reasons for legalizing drugs. Maybe you should read them.

    I gave you references, which you said you liked. Maybe you should read them.
    # posted by bernarda : 10 April, 2006 17:15

    I don't want to read anything you have to offer me. I don't know why you are here if you think I'm not rational.
    Either make a specific point or don't. But don't expect me to do homework assignments. I'll read what I want when I want. I don't want to read your crap, because whatever you have read in your life turned you into the imbecile you are today.
    # posted by Bacon Eating Atheist Jew : 10 April, 2006 17:30"

    In addition, he calls anyone, particularly me, who opposes his fanatic fundie zionism "a jew-hater".

    5:43:00 AM  
    Blogger The Atheologist said...

    thank you bigdumbchimp,

    I visited your blog and I like it, I will reciprocate.

    9:28:00 AM  
    Blogger The Atheologist said...

    Bernarda,

    I am leaving your comment up, but please don’t use my blog to get around someone’s censorship.
    Do you have a blog of your own? That may be a good way to get your opinions out to those you are trying to reach.
    I have some possible blog titles for you: I hate the beaj, beaj sucks… you get the idea.

    9:42:00 AM  
    Blogger Bacon Eating Atheist Jew said...

    That is a great idea. Maybe she doesn't realize that a blog is free to make and maintain. She can dedicate as many posts as she wants. She can make as many posts as she wants on zionazism too. And she can throw in the odd post about atheism too.

    11:16:00 AM  
    Anonymous bernarda said...

    atheologist, I was just giving your readers proof of what you said. I am not avoiding his censorship. Last I looked, these posts were still on his site.

    But I don't post on his site any more because he is too much of a coward to listen to contrary opinions.

    Baconeating is a religious fundamentalist. What can you say about a supposed canadian that puts an israel flag on his site? At minimum he is a traitor to his country.

    That said, I am finished with him here.

    1:44:00 PM  
    Blogger Bacon Eating Atheist Jew said...

    Atheologist, it looks like the jig is up.
    Someone has discovered the fact that we are the same person.

    10:39:00 PM  
    Blogger Steve said...

    This comment has been removed because it linked to malicious content. Learn more.

    6:40:00 PM  
    Blogger W said...

    Atheologist, if you could answer, and if not, OK, what gives about the 'vegetarian' profile? Reasons. Purpose. Objective.

    3:45:00 PM  
    Blogger W said...

    To ALL,

    I am a Theravada Buddhist. I like to think I have not much bias for or against religion, and thus for or against atheists / theists/ pantheists/ panentheists/ polytheists/ non-theists /
    agnostics/ etc... I could be wrong, though, as it is human to err. But I try and think I do.

    I look for the core values that, underlie each, and what can take us homo sapiens to the future millineum. After all, it was not that long ago, "we" were homo erectus! And maybe not too long in the future, 'we' the 'homo sapiens' may be replaced by the better 'homo xyz'. If it has happened consistently before, it can happen in the future.

    Thus what is best for us 'homo sapiens' is best approach.

    Against this backdrop, I like to ask ALL:-

    1] Is the critique of literalist Christians by ridicule the best approach? Or just plain critique as one happens to have this area of science knowledge to those who have yet to appreciate that. In America, creation science has been taken out of the school science syllabus. In the first test case, in Dover high school, ID has been taken out of the science syllabus. The approach taken by the courts and their arguments is plain critique. The arguments by the American Nobel science laureates are best approach.

    2] There is a small group of atheists who condone looking at the creation science view of the science as 'psychosis' when in fact it is common knowledge that psychosis is a severe form of mental illness, and often requiring medical drugs anti psychotic with side effects. It speaks poorly of those who cling to the idea that all religious beliefs are psychosis. It is not the best approach, where, the religious beliefs, coincides with erroneous science views. But it still is not a psychosis.

    I would like to hear your views, in the specific points and against the backdrop, where, 'we' homo sapiens go from here, when it was not just 700,000 years ago, 'we' not homo sapiens, discovered fire.
    We have a long way to go, and we could do with best approaches.

    4:00:00 PM  
    Blogger W said...

    Atheologist,

    A believer in atheism is an atheist= A believer in theism is a theist.

    Like you said, a person who studies theology is a theologist [ though I prefer theologian] and a person who studies atheism is atheologist.

    I was expecting atheists and atheologists to lay out the basic concepts of atheism and atheology. Instead I see a vehement speel bound drive to tear apart literalist Christians. It seems like some kind of driven process that is like a rendering apart of psyche.

    What are the basic concepts of atheology. If one picks up a book on theology, it is set out.

    4:14:00 PM  
    Blogger W said...

    P/S, Atheologist, your website, as listed on google, is down, or rather it has a brown page with floral patterns.

    4:58:00 PM  
    Blogger Bacon Eating Atheist Jew said...

    W, you should really get your own blog. It is free. That way you can really get your word out there.
    You ask way too many questions in the commenteries I have noticed. You should ask one at a time, or post your thoughts on your own blog.
    Just my 2 cents.

    11:05:00 PM  
    Blogger W said...

    You are right, but now is not the time to start blogging. I am on a different trajectory currently that will not afford me the luxury of time for blogging these philosophical thoughts. Its like a comet shoot and I have to leave it as that. Maybe these can be some thoughts for atheologist :-)))) ????

    BTW us, there is a tendency in me to think of something for a decade before coming out in print.

    So, these will just remain thoughts on this blog for anyone to pick up on, if anyone does ..... alas :-)))) !!!!

    Cheerio and have a good summer. It was Aristotle who said, one swallow does not make a summer ! He must have been watching, like I watch the geese and birds :-)))) Hi hi ...

    2:27:00 AM  
    Blogger Steve said...

    w - if I could address your points, I would say that atheists who mock literal theists don't do so because they intend to change minds, its in part a reaction to the strict religious controls placed on us as we grow up, and the extreme negative press of atheists in the media. I don't consider the negativity of atheists to be a technique, so much as a response to theists and their attitude towards atheistic belief systems.

    That being said, I'm of course interested in your Buddhist ideology. On my blog, I try not to be hostile to any religion in particular, although I do make atheist posts from time to time.

    3:20:00 AM  
    Blogger W said...

    Steve, my concern of atheists anger turned outward, as part of the rendering apart of the psyche, when the nice rosy world they believed in fell apart, and they ate the apple and now know what they believed is not true, that they get very angry disillusioned and yet seek to eat more of the apple, doing damage to the psyche, instead of taking it in balance.

    The web is an unruly library and people with ideologies can pen their slant and circulate their ideas fast, especially when there is a hungry audience. A less discriminating audience. Article written that may not pass the muster of serious historians or scientists are devored by atheists, and their psyche is affected more. It is undesirable and unwise.

    Maybe if the atheists focussed on outlining the core values and principles of atheism, maybe that can halt that slide down the hill, without brakes, ....

    9:48:00 AM  
    Blogger The Atheologist said...

    w, as the beaj pointed out, you do seem to have a lot of questions and opinions, and really should have your own blog, but I’ll try to address a few:

    At first I chose to become a vegetarian for the healthier lifestyle aspect, I later on learned of the suffering and horrors that occur in factory farms, so now it is a combination of the two reasons.

    My blog is mainly for my amusement. I am not looking to convert anyone, I don’t have the time or energy to debate theists, especially Fundamentalist Christians and it is often a waste of time, religion often seems destroy the ability to reason and think, look here and just ask the beaj.

    What steve said goes for most atheists, myself included. Also, as it is often said and pointed out, (but seldom paid attention to), atheism is not a belief; it is the absence of a belief. And definitely not a religion.

    w, I have a couple of questions for you:
    (1) Do you consider Buddhism a religion?
    (2) How did you feel when the Taliban destroyed the statues of Buddha in Afganistan?

    And w, you asked about the concepts of atheology; When I decided on a title for this blog, I thought that I had coined the term “Atheologist”. You make it sound like there really is such an animal as an Atheologist. Is there?

    Hey come to think of it, the Atheologist has never done a post on Buddhism. Never say never.

    10:11:00 AM  
    Blogger The Atheologist said...

    w,

    Your last comment slipped in before I posted mine. I now can see that all of your original questions were of the rhetorical kind.
    What part of the atheists’ world, which you have referred to, is falling apart?
    Yes, some atheists are angry. Look here and read the rabbi’s original article. Then click on the links at the bottom of my post and try to understand that atheists are the ones who are being attacked and mocked, usually just for their ability to think clearly and think critically. Then go away.

    10:49:00 AM  
    Blogger W said...

    Atheologist, to answer a couple of yours.

    1] I would consider Buddhism a religion, though if one wants to get into semantics, especially if one sees a religion as a belief than God, than, Buddhism that remains silent and does not speculate on God, is then not a religion. Some say it is a way of life. But I would go by general world standard that there are major religions in the world and Buddhism is one of them. If one googles religion statistics population world, one would acth Buddhism, number of Buddhists in the world , percentage of believers.

    2] Personally, no issue, because Buddhist are very complacent. The serious Buddhist is focussed on finding the piece of land or building to have meditation courses and retreats, and a piece of stone in Afghanistan concerns them the very least. The Chinese thought it might be worth their commercial effort to rebuild a replica of that in China to attract tourists. It was for the bucks. Also it is the main trek for Buddhist pilgrimage. Once I was at Borobudhur, Jog Jakarta, Indonesia for one of the seven wonders of the world, a well known Buddhist building of antiquity, I was how you say, transported in time, for those few moments,... I have also visited the wonderful pagoda like building in Yangoon, and just sat there bathed in the ambience of it. I heard from the local tourist guide that many locals come week end and sit there. It was a sight to see many Buddhist images and monks and young novices there, all over the place, it seems, whenever I looked out of the tour bus.

    Since someone dropped the word, "We are one" I was nearly floored and nearly fell off my chair. Around then, i decided I had the inner take it, to go lacto ovo vegetarian for the geese that flies over the river.... hi hi .

    3:25:00 PM  
    Blogger W said...

    Atheologist,

    Broad sweep, Christianity is a path of action and Buddhism is a path of meditation and Hinduism, offers both paths : path of meditation and path of action.

    Seen thus, Christians are more engaged in humanitarian work and social work. Buddhist are less. Buddhist are focussed on seeking opportunity to meditate, right teacher, right place, right time, right circumstances to facilitate this pursuit. Why?

    The ancient secret path out of illusion of the world, where we see the self as self when there is no self, is through insight meditation [ if it is the oldest school of the three schools, Theravada]

    I like to see the day when forest meditation monks ply the secular fields of studies in science and boy oh boy, you will find physics seen anew through a meditator's eyes and experience.

    4:18:00 PM  
    Blogger W said...

    If you ever do on Buddhism and if I am not around, here's another broad sweep
    1] three schools of Buddhism, oldest is Theravada [ Southern Asia, eg Thailand , Myanmar] and Mahayana [Northern Asia eg China Japan] and Vajyrana [Tibet]
    Dalai Lama in exile of Vajyrana.
    Most Americans are drawn to Zen, that is part of Mahayana, that went to Japan, which focus on meditation.
    2] I come from the Theravada school and do more with the Forest Monk Tradition, and the place in USA is the Abhayagiri Monastery in CA, Northen California, Red Wood Valley. Before the leader of the Mahayana died, he willed the land or rather forest to the Theravada so that they could have a forest monastry there. I mention this, if you write an article, you might want to pass by them, if you want accuracy checked for details from Theravada angle. There are American monks there. Just email .

    On Atheologist, why not? If you have theologist, and the wide range of theology, from left to right, with evangelical theology, why not the full buffet of atheologist view point?

    There can be no belief, as we have a mind that works with the world around us, and it requires us to have views of the world around us. If we probe we know our beliefs, but this probing means awareness.

    So the next serial then is your atheologist beliefs, values, principles, all so well interwoven, that people looking at it will say, "Hey! Not bad :-))) "

    Go for it....set it out, beat Bertrand Russell's....

    5:10:00 PM  
    Blogger Curious Joe said...

    W,

    You have been repeatedly asking for basic concepts of atheology and an outline of the core values and principles of the atheists. Here you are, 21 of them. Let us know if you want more.

    • We are committed to the application of reason and science to the understanding of the universe and to the solving of human problems.
    • We deplore efforts to denigrate human intelligence, to seek to explain the world in supernatural terms, and to look outside nature for salvation.
    • We believe the scientific discovery and technology can contribute to the betterment of human life.
    • We believe in an open and pluralistic society and that democracy is the best guarantee of protecting human rights from authoritarian elites and repressive majorities.
    • We are committed to the principle of the separation of church and state.
    • We cultivate the arts of negotiation and compromise as a means of resolving differences and achieving mutual understanding.
    • We are concerned with securing justice and fairness in society and with eliminating discrimination and intolerance.
    • We believe in supporting the disadvantaged and the handicapped so that they will be able to help themselves.
    • We attempt to transcend divisive parochial loyalties based on race, religion, gender, nationality, creed, class, sexual orientation, or ethnicity, and strive to work together for the common good of humanity.
    • We want to protect and enhance the earth, to preserve it for future generations, and to avoid inflicting needless suffering on other species.
    • We believe in enjoying life here and now and in developing our creative talents to their fullest.
    • We believe in the cultivation of moral excellence.
    • We believe in the right to privacy. Mature adults should be allowed to fulfill their aspirations, to express their sexual preferences, to exercise reproductive freedom, to have access to comprehensive and informed health-care, and to die with dignity.
    • We believe in the common moral decencies: altruism, integrity, honesty, truthfulness, responsibility. Humanist ethics is amenable to critical, rational guidance. There are normative standards that we discover together. Moral principles are tested by their consequences.
    • We are deeply concerned with the moral education of our children. We want to nourish reason and compassion.
    • We are engaged by the arts no less than by the sciences.
    • We are citizens of the universe and are excited by discoveries still to be made in the cosmos.
    • We are skeptical of the untested claims to knowledge, and we are open to novel ideas and seek new departures in our thinking.
    • We affirm humanism as a realistic alternative to theologies of despair and ideologies of violence and as a source of rich personal significance and genuine satisfaction in the service to others.
    • We believe in optimism rather than pessimism, hope rather than despair, learning in the place of dogma, truth instead of ignorance, joy rather than guilt or sin, tolerance in the place of fear, love instead of hatred, compassion over selfishness, beauty instead of ugliness, and reason rather than blind faith or irrationality.
    • We believe in the fullest realization of the best and noblest that we are capable of as human beings.

    3:51:00 AM  
    Anonymous Anonymous said...

    I would say that curious joe's 21 points are more the values of secular humanism. Atheism is merely a lack of belief in a diety, nothing more. If you look on the web, you can find many posts by people who identify themselves as atheists and you will see how little effect their disbelief has on many of their opinions.

    4:07:00 AM  
    Blogger The Atheologist said...

    Yes anonymous, I agree with you. Secular humanists tend to be atheists but those who identify themselves as atheists are very often not secular humanists.

    9:20:00 AM  

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